玉皇菇
发表于 2011-1-17 21:15:08
泡杯绿茶,听李老缓缓道来,菌界的千姿百态。
城刚
发表于 2011-1-18 08:52:05
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>80年代生</i>在2011-1-16 20:37:23的发言:</b><br/>
<p>我是80后,从我07年开始做食用菌到现在,我的老父亲一直是反对态度;到现在也没赚到什么钱,这也成了老父亲“打压”我的口实,心情郁闷的很。多想得到父亲的支持啊!哪怕是言语上的也行!</p></div>
<p>哎。咱俩差不多,现在都说你年纪轻轻干这玩意,连60,70的老头都会种,很看不起这个行业。咱们要努力啊,现在真正了解食用菌的人太少了。我也80后<font color="#ff00ff" size="6">努力</font></p>
一位退休老人的唠叨
发表于 2011-1-18 07:44:10
我要注册
发表于 2011-1-23 22:25:09
前头把手摔了,后头又整感冒了,今天都是兜着手才来李老师这里听故事,免费学习黑木耳技术呀。<br/>先顶起,再入座,听老师下回分讲!!!!
李永国
发表于 2011-1-25 17:10:17
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mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">140</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">公里处一个半山区大约有</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">公顷【</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">万平方米】的窑土筛选场内,这家工厂由兄弟两人共有,弟弟生产机制砖,哥哥筛选窑土,哥哥筛选窑土利润微薄,由于场区较大,空闲地较多,</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">2009</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">年哥哥在不影响筛选窑土的情况下从吉林省东部黑木耳主产区引进技术栽培黑木耳</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; 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mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">09</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">年的具体情况不好断言,没法帮助他分析具体原因。【长话短说】在闲聊中我们互相了解到我们两人原来都是在一个区政府中工作过,本人在企业工作,他一直在机关工作,那时他年龄还小,还没有混在大人圈子里,就这样越谈越投机。他决定在本人这里预定原种【二级种】同时其它物资也在我这里购买的。关于制作栽培袋、环境净化消毒、常压灭菌等注意事项跟他讲的很清楚,此人也很精明。就这样当事人从</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">2010</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">年</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">1</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">月末开始生产制作栽培袋,同时也不断的电话联系,以便及时掌握生产操作情况与养菌情况。这位兄弟有</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">个养菌室,每个养菌室可摆放</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">万左右栽培袋,他的常压灭菌锅可一次装</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">1500</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">袋,在他生产第</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">天左右本人给他去电话问菌丝生长怎样了,由于是插棒工艺,菌种在栽培袋基料中心看不到,我让他在养菌室不同部位同时掰开</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">个栽培袋观察看菌丝成活的怎么样。半小时以后来电话说有</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">个栽培袋菌种没活,我一听这还了得,赶紧去一趟吧</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">….</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">。时间正是农历腊月</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">27</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">,离过春节还有</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; 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mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">月份再生产</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">万袋秋耳,【在这里说一下,他用的是离子风接的菌种】本人去了那里之后发现,他那里根本不具备用离子风接种条件,为什么呢?因为他们那里是筛选窑土的工厂,灰土暴尘的,没有一间屋子是洁净的,也不能洁净、到处都是粉尘。冬天室外有雪覆盖着,另外天气也寒冷,杂菌相对少,室内关闭时间常,室内又做了规范化消毒和净化,只有通风时才打开门窗,所以春节过后接种没有出现杂菌污染。可是制作秋耳就不同了,我们这边秋耳栽培是</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">月中下旬至</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">6</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">月上旬制作栽培袋进入养菌期,他那里是窑土筛选场地,每天灰土暴尘的,没有一间像样的屋子,用离子风接种是绝对不安全的。可是这位老兄非要用离子风接种,本人一再告诉他夏天用离子风接种不可取,这老兄笑着对我说:我就想冒把险试试看到底是那么回事不可,结果</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US">4</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">万黑木耳栽培袋几乎全军覆灭,全部污染杂菌,明显是接种时病从口入,后来后悔也晚了。</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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李永国
发表于 2011-1-25 17:08:07
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>我要注册</i>在2011-1-24 21:31:35的发言:</b><br/>怎不见今天更新啊????? </div>
<p>感谢版主抬举,春节前事多,原来都是笔记底稿,打字慢时间不够用,所以这些天没接着往下讲。您这边要看更新、南湖春王老师在那边又紧着敲锣、打气,我也不能不识抬举啊......。紧赶慢赶今天下午抢时间打出一个半成品稿子,那就发吗。谢谢版主们抬举!</p>
我要注册
发表于 2011-1-24 21:31:35
怎不见今天更新啊?????
蘑菇仓库
发表于 2011-1-29 10:08:24
老兄非要用离子风接种,本人一再告诉他夏天用离子风接种不可取,这老兄笑着对我说:我就想冒把险试试看到底是那么回事不可,结果<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Dotum; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">4</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: Dotum; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Dotum">万黑木耳栽培袋几乎全军覆灭,全部污染杂菌。 <font color="#00ffff">这叫不碰南墙不回头,现在这种人多得是</font>。</span>
双孢菇论坛
发表于 2011-2-3 14:45:50
李老师新年好!祝李老师新的一年吃好睡好工作好----一切都好!
自由菇农
发表于 2011-2-23 21:26:58
<font color="#0000ff" size="4"> 今天才有幸看到李老师的好帖子,听精彩的故事,学真正的技术。您老喜谈菌人成败,我等笑看菇农人生<font face="Verdana" color="#0000ff" size="4">!</font></font>